less jobs. >> more government is more government spending for the jobs, so-- >> and mike didn't like the answer to that question. >> mike: how much time, you were really good, really smart and a lot of fancy words, but if you're just looking at some going 8%, and i thought it's getting better. >> the underemployment, 14, 15%, and not-- >> all right. >> a new york state of mind, and more "fox & friends." ♪ ♪ [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8... [ slap! slap! slap! ] [ music, laughter stop ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite foods fight you, fight back fast with tums smoothies. so fast and smooth, you'll forget you had heartburn. ♪ tum tum tum tum tums [ male announcer ] tums smoothies. >> tomorrow, very exciting, we have julie andrews on the show, the hills of alive. >> and chris